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Reindeer vs Moose Box Score

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MOOSE vs REINDEER
BOX SCORE
 

FIRST, ABOUT
MOOSE & ME

I enjoy moose!  For 37 years, I lived on Moose Hill Parkway which leads into Moose Hill Street.  At that intersection, there is the main house for the Moose Hill Audubon which owns and protects the Moose Hill Sanctuary across from my house/office on Moose Hill in Sharon, MA. 
 
I have a company, "Cool Moose and a Reclusive Goose,"(tm) which develops websites for individuals and entities. By clicking either link, one will see that I've published two pages to explain this magnificent creature and have a third page linking to the website of Mark Picard, one of the best photographers of moose.  As I build this site to argue against the bull moose as a college mascot, I'm sipping coffee out of a moose mug with moose paraphernalia all over the office.
 
If Dartmouth officials adopt the moose, I'll be styling in moose-world. 
 
NOTWITHSTANDING...  I AM CONVINCED THAT REINDEER / CARIBOU ARE THE ANIMAL TO BEST INSPIRE DARTMOUTH'S OFFICAL MASCOT; PLUS PROVIDE A ROBUST ACADEMIC AND SOCIAL IMMERSION INTO A CULTURE THAT HAS NEVER BEEN REALIZED BY ANY PREVIOUS SYMBOLS OR NAMES. 
 
READ BELOW AND THROUGHOUT FOR REASONS:

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MOOSE vs REINDEER
COMPARED & CONTRASTED

ATTRIBUTES

MOOSE

REINDEER / CARIBOU

Antlers

 

 

   Males

Yes

Yes

      Rack Structure

      (Different But Equal )

Enormous

Grow larger w age

Very Large Branches

 Bumpers  / Grow larger w age

   Females

No

YES

      Rack Structure

None

Large

Full rack / Smaller than males

But, retained longer than males

Conformation

A Gangly,

“Northern Camel!” 

A Rugged,

Northern Deer

Image

Powerful & Massive

Powerful & More Refined

Team Players

Sport teams are rugged

individuals working

together.  Ditto for

corporations and colleges

No

Not used in teams

Not able to be domesticated

Not sociable

Best left alone; attacks

YES

Rugged individually

Used regularly in teams                         

Historical relationship w humans

Critical economic relationship

Unique Mascot

Not Rare

Seattle Mariners have a moose for starters

YES

No Pros / No known college

No known high schools

Live Mascot

( IF DESIRED )

No... too dangerous

YES... penned & used in public

Could pair mascots to have unique 2some

Symbol of North

Yes

Yes

Symbol For Dartmouth

As Mascot Only

As a Mascot & METAPHOR

of College Educational Goals

for strong individuals in team societies

Dartmouth Study

Not Certain

YES

License Value

High

2X Higher - Female buy-in is assured.

Collateral Items

Very High In North

Extremely High - Deer in all regions

Retail Acceptance

Very High

Extremely High - Merchandise tie-ins

Potential For More Study

Perhaps Important

Not critical to human

daily life.  Not a staple -

food/clothing/commerce

Critically Important To Humans

Ideal for Interdisciplinary Study

BioSci / Eviron / Econ / Soc /  Hist

Govt. / Medicine & more

Potential For Coop Study

 

Little - perhaps in wild

ecco system study.

Very Much

Cornell / U Penn Vet. Schools

Northern College Ag. Depts.

Perhaps Local Breeding  / Herding

Political Correctness

Problem

Antlered creature

represents males only.

Otherwise, moose are a

PC safe.

No Problem

Santa is not a Christian symbol.

Secular use since1830; Rudolph since 1939

Song since 1949

Most Famous

"Bullwinkle" tm Ward Productions

"Rudolph" tm  Created by Robert May, Dartmouth '29

 

THESE TABLES PROVIDE FOR EVALUATING
THE REINDEER AGAINST THE MOOSE . 

MASCOT /
SYMBOL
 
GENDER
NEUTRAL
 
PROPER
COLLEGE
FIT
 
 
EASE OF
IMPLEMEN-
TATION
 
GRAPHIC
REPRESEN-
TATION
 
SERIOUS
COLLEGE STUDY
 
CAMPUS /
COMMUNITY
CULTURE
 
 
FUN USING
MASCOT
 
GIFT OR
FUND-
RAISING
 
REINDEER
CARIBOU

YES

YES
 
* Current  Rangifer Study
* Native American Related
* Baker Collection
* Northern Animal
* Domesticated

YES
 
* Reindeer have impressive antlers, coats and colors
* Graphically easy to impliment... plus no other reindeer mascots are known
* Great symbol of individual & team strength
* Domestication of animal allows for live mascot on tether or fenced
* Folklore abounds around this vital animal

YES
 
* The antlers on male & female allow uniform design continuity
* Antlers on helmets, enclosing the Dartmouth Emblem, as font design
* Northern clime fashion provide warm-ups and casual wear.
 
YES
 
* People
* Animals
* Economy
* Enivornment
* Ecology
* Govt Regs
 

VERY
 
* Unique Mascot
* Domestic Animal
* Town & Country Style / Fashion
 
 

YES
 
* Reindeer provide hands on opportunities.
* Live mascot... winter rides...nearby herding
* Tremendous opportunity for city students to experience large animal care
* Tie-in programs with Ivy Vet School - Cornell & Penn

YES
 
* Antlers and lore around the reindeer provide great premiums.

MOOSE

NO
 
Impressive
Spatulated Antlers
Are Only On
MALES
 
SOMEWHAT
 
* Little Human
  Dependency
* Little Economy
* Northern Animal
 
IMPOSSIBLE
 
* Just who will explain to FEMALE alums & students that after 30 YEARS of thought, The College has decided on an all MALE symbol?
(SEE COMPLETE NOTE BELOW)
   

SADLY
 
* "THE MOOSE DOESN'T FIT... SO WE ALL MUST QUIT" attempting to believe that it is a proper mascot / symbol / culture for Dartmouth College and the Dartmouth Community.

 

50% APPEAL
 
*  Why appeal to guys only?

ANTLERS

YES
 
* Reindeer & Caribou make it so
 
YES
 
*An antlered animal seems preferred by students.
*Antlers provide latitude in representation and geography.
 
   

YES
 
* Cell-Tissue Regeneration
* Bio/MedSch Research